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Clan Disciplines
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:53 pm
by rydi
If you could add a single discipline to each of the following clans, which discipline would you choose? What I'm looking for is not the most powerful, but rather what fits most with the clan. I would also prefer they come from the more generic disciplines, not weird stuff like mytherceria and friends.
Brujah – Celerity, Potence, Presence
Gangrel – Animalism, Fortitude, Protean
Malkavian – Auspex, Dementation, Obfuscate
Nosferatu – Animalism, Obfuscate, Potence
Toreador – Auspex, Celerity, Presence
Salubri – Auspex, Fortitude, Valeren
Ventrue – Dominate, Fortitude, Presence
Lasombra – Dominate, Obtenebration, Potence
Tzimice – Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude
Assamite – Celerity, Obfuscate, Quietus
Settites – Obfuscate, Presence, Serpentis
Cappadocian – Auspex, Fortitude, Mortis
Ravnos – Animalism, Fortitude, Chimerstry
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:03 pm
by Rusty
Brujah – Celerity, Potence, Presence, Fortitude
Gangrel – Animalism, Fortitude, Protean, Celerity
Malkavian – Auspex, Dementation, Obfuscate, Dominate
Nosferatu – Animalism, Obfuscate, Potence, Auspex
Toreador – Auspex, Celerity, Presence, Chimerstry
Salubri – Auspex, Fortitude, Valeren, Obfuscate
Ventrue – Dominate, Fortitude, Presence, Auspex
Lasombra – Dominate, Obtenebration, Potence, Obfuscate
Tzimice – Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude, Potence
Assamite – Celerity, Obfuscate, Quietus, Protean
Settites – Obfuscate, Presence, Serpentis, Dominate
Cappadocian – Auspex, Fortitude, Mortis, I don't know
Ravnos – Animalism, Fortitude, Chimerstry, Presence
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:15 pm
by arete
Brujah – Celerity, Potence, Presence, Fortitude
Gangrel – Animalism, Fortitude, Protean, Celerity
Malkavian – Auspex, Dementation, Obfuscate, Dominate
Nosferatu – Animalism, Obfuscate, Potence, NIGHTMARES
Toreador – Auspex, Celerity, Presence, POTENCE
Salubri – Auspex, Fortitude, Valeren, Obfuscate
Ventrue – Dominate, Fortitude, Presence, ANIMALISM
Lasombra – Dominate, Obtenebration, Potence,
Tzimice – Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude, Potence
Assamite – Celerity, Obfuscate, Quietus, POTENCE
Settites – Obfuscate, Presence, Serpentis, AUSPEX
Cappadocian – Auspex, Fortitude, Mortis, MAYBE OBFUSCATE
Ravnos – Animalism, Fortitude, Chimerstry, Presence
NOTES: I do not know if the brujah would get fortitude if you take into account their entire history, but if it is an off shoot of the original then I completely agree. Gangrel might want celerity, but potence is a stonger (no pun intended) choice from a player perspective. The only reason I did not give them potence is because I gave a majority of the clans potence. The nosferatu could get aupex, but if I take into account Nwod then it gives us a chance to give them a power no one else gets. tori's cant have chimerstry, and generally they tend to get more physical disciplines. maybe they need something social. Ventrue I gave animalism because it matches up with new wod, and gives them more flavor. Lasombra should not get obfuscate because they are a very in your face clan, I have not give them a 4th power, but I will come back to that after i look over the books. Assamites do not get another unique power, and giving them potence just makes them better killers. Setties would want something more subtle and i think aupex fits them nicely. Finally Cappadocian what do we give them? hell i don't know either, but I will also come back to that after i look over the books a little.
Why so much potence is definately something I asked after looking at my list, but it is an effective power that most people/clans would find useful in the long run of immortality. It is also very common in the mythos.
Re: Clan Disciplines
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:46 pm
by Avilister
Brujah – Celerity, Potence, Presence, DOMINATE (In DA probably Auspex, but the modern Brujah are a forceful and direct clan; no clan needs access to all 3 physical disciplines in-clan)
Gangrel – Animalism, Fortitude, Protean, OBFUSCATE (or celerity - disciplines that make them better hunters)
Malkavian – Auspex, Dementation, Obfuscate, PRESENCE (fits better than Dominate, IMO, lets them fuck with people's heads in less noticeable ways)
Nosferatu – Animalism, Obfuscate, Potence, AUSPEX (helps with their investigative streak)
Toreador – Auspex, Celerity, Presence, DOMINATE (Torries are more social than others, and thus the other major social discipline makes sense for them)
Salubri – Auspex, Fortitude, Valeren, PRESENCE (not really sure if there's a good reason for this - they don't really have a social discipline and none of the others really fit)
Ventrue – Dominate, Fortitude, Presence, POTENCE (strength helps to enforce rule)
Lasombra – Dominate, Obtenebration, Potence, PRESENCE (same as Torries and Ventrue, but backwards)
Tzimice – Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude, POTENCE (a direct discipline for a direct clan)
Assamite – Celerity, Obfuscate, Quietus, AUSPEX (for better hunters, also the other two bloodlines have, or had, access to Auspex)
Settites – Obfuscate, Presence, Serpentis, DOMINATE (hypnotic snake eyes)
Cappadocian – Auspex, Fortitude, Mortis, DOMINATE (they don't strike me as a clan that has much tolerance for disobedience and indirect manipulation - could also be why the Giovanni develop it)
Ravnos – Animalism, Fortitude, Chimerstry, PRESENCE (general charisma booster)
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:16 pm
by Ivanovich
Brujah – Celerity, Potence, Presence, Dominate
Gangrel – Animalism, Fortitude, Protean, Obfuscate (Celerity would be a good option as well and potence is a distant third)
Malkavian – Auspex, Dementation, Obfuscate, Dominate or Presence
Nosferatu – Animalism, Obfuscate, Potence, Auspex
Toreador – Auspex, Celerity, Presence, Potence (though fortitude might work as well)
Salubri – Auspex, Fortitude, Valeren, Presence
Ventrue – Dominate, Fortitude, Presence, Potence
Lasombra – Dominate, Obtenebration, Potence, Fortitude
Tzimice – Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude, Potence
Assamite – Celerity, Obfuscate, Quietus, Auspex
Settites – Obfuscate, Presence, Serpentis, Dominate (Auspex runs a close second IMO)
Cappadocian – Auspex, Fortitude, Mortis, Dominate
Ravnos – Animalism, Fortitude, Chimerstry, Presence
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:11 pm
by rydi
I think I've got most of it figured out, thanks everybody. My current process is finding nwod disciplines to represent the unique owod stuff. thanks to them rehashing all the same stuff but in different packages, most of that isn't actually too hard though. Viscissitude is going to be the hardest one I think, that and warrior's path valeren (though if you go off the older version, Scourge works out fairly well in that regard).