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I agree. And concur.

I read art of war again, squealed, then read it again. I'm muddling through the prince, which I have never particularly liked, but it isn't causing my eyes to bleed quite yet. On a fiction note, there is a set of star trek books called, Star Trek: New Frontier. Its written mostly by Peter David and I think it rocks. I find the characters to be well developed, probably like most star trek characters would be if the series wasn't televised, and the interaction between the characters to be very fun. It's not particularly a serious or deep series, just fun.

peter david usually does good work

I heart the New Frontier series. The relaunch books are well done also.

I read... I might even pick up my copy of "The Prince" again. I read it in high school, but I could stand for a revisit to that work. But, when you say that ANYONE should be able to chose a book for the book club; I would have to disagree. There really is no one in this group that should have to put up with the drivel I like to read. So, I am happy to pick up you all's suggestions, but don't ever ask me to suggest anything. You will be sorry!

I think you should suggest something... except Twilight, or The Giver

I rather liked The Giver.

I will never read it again. I had to read it for school, and as usual procrastinated. I read it in about... I dunno 5-6 hours in one sitting? My mind 'esplode.

what is this "giver"?

A book by Lois Lowry that I have been trying to get Josh to read since we moved, It is a very short read, and won the newberry (sp?) award when it came out. It is a utopian society type thing. No one sees in color or feels much pain... that sort of thing.

It is a rather depressing utopia. The main storyline focuses around a young boy being trained as a 'receiver'. In this world there are no memories of the past, and all are kept by one person as a sort of mental historian. This is passed to his trainee. As the story progresses we learn that worker robot land might not be as utopian as it first seems. (at least thats how i remember it)

so... dystopian, would be a better description then?

yes, think 1984, or Brave New World...lite

yes, dystopian is a better description... And it was not all that dissimilar to 1984 in some aspects. Ang, your memory serves, and Josh will refuse to read it no matter what.

Also, I would never have suggested "Twilight" to this particular group of people. I am fully aware of the fact that it is drivel, but seeing how I sometimes enjoy drivel I refuse to subject you all to it.

The Giver's setting is, in fact, dystopian. They live in a tightly controlled totalitarian environment where people have had fun bred out of them. Being forced to read it in the 8th grade did not exactly make me fond of it.